We're on our way to lunch. Where do we usually eat? At a gastropub, right? What's a gastropub?  Chef Wook Kang and I talk about gastropubs and their proliferation in the last few years. We talk about the Green Door Tavern here in Chicago and many more.  We talk about how to cut back on sugar in baking and cooking. And lastly, I answer some listener mail, one from my own Mom. Thanks for listening and we'll see you next week.